INTERVIEW

INTERVIEW // SANDRA ERBACHER

A CONVERSATION WITH SANDRA ERBACHER ON THE OCCASION OF BESIDES AT GRIN

GRIN - How do you decide on your materials? It seems that they often include the domestic object – does this come from a personal place, is it the product of observation, or both?

SANDRA ERBACHER - The objects presented in my work come from personal experience, encounters and observation. Growing up in Germany during the 80s has definitely informed my choice of objects. They have a slightly outdated, nostalgic feel to them, yet they represent the efficiency and orderliness stereotypically associated with the country.

The materials or medium chosen to present these objects depends on what I would like to communicate at any given time. At times a seemingly cool, removed photographic presentation may seem the most appropriate form, at other times a sculpture or experiential installation might be the more succinct embodiment for an idea.

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GRIN -  Where do you live? Where do you work? Are these places the products of convenience, calculated choice, or necessity? Do you see yourself in a different place 5 years from now?

SE- Providence, RI. I used to work in the spare bedroom of my apartment out of necessity, but this has turned out to be utterly impractical and unsuitable for any photographic or larger work. So from January this year, my husband and I share a studio at Fountain Street Studios. Not any specific place but onwards and upwards.

GRIN-    Utilizing relatable subject or material often amplifies a viewer’s interaction with a work. What level of consideration do you place with this reaction during your process?

SE- At first, the objects I use may often seem very cold, detached and difficult to relate to on a personal level. Additionally, they may be presented in a very removed way, for instance, using the photographic style of commercial stock photography, institutional material such as white laminated wood or cool neon lighting. However, I purposefully try to introduce a sense of humour and playfulness into my work to act as an access point for the audience, well as a critical tool to trigger a thought process or questioning of the status quo or the deeper meaning of a work.

ABOUT THE ARTIST

BUREAUCRACY, DEF:
An administrative or social system that relies on a set of rules and procedures, separation of functions and a hierarchical structure in implementing controls over an organization, government or social system.

Sandra Erbacherʼs latest works examine the institutional as an abstract, formless, and bureaucratic entity. The objects incorporated in her work, whether photographic or sculptural in form are typically found within an institutional setting: an ordinary office plant, cream-coloured carpeting, a standard beige box fan, or a uniform, avocado green wall-mounted telephone. The sole purpose of the existence of these objects seems to be to organize human activity, to maximize efficiency, maintain order and thus aid in the imposition of a rule-based hierarchical system of rational control.

What happens though, if said objects refuse to conform to their standard mode of operation? This is the question at the heart of Erbacherʼs inquiry. Her objects are activated through material interventions and, as a result, display a rebelliousness that could potentially pose a threat to the institutional order: A carpet covering a gallery wall with an anarchy symbol shaved into its fibres; a larger-than-life photograph of a small box fan filled with concrete; and an HVAC system that emits a muffled version of Roxetteʼs ʻDangerous’. Instead of promoting an efficient work-flow, Erbacherʼs objects are unruly. They break down, become dysfunctional and fail to fulfil their purpose. Yet it is exactly their failure that holds their potential to subvert the systems and structures they are supposed to perpetuate from within.

Sandra Erbacher is a German artist living and working in Providence, RI. She has earned her BFA from Camberwell College of Art, London (2009) and her MFA from the University of Wisconsin-Madison (2014). She has exhibited nationally and internationally, at Grin Providence, the Atlanta Contemporary Art Center, the Chazen Museum of Art, Madison, Mana Contemporary Chicago, Circuit 12 Contemporary, Dallas, The Contemporary, London, Kunstverein Speyer, Germany, Umbrella Gallery, Leeds, and Five Years, London. She is the recipient of the 2014 Chazen Prize to an Outstanding MFA Student, a University of Wisconsin fellowship and the Blink Grant for Public Art 2013.

She is currently represented by Grin, Providence.

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INTERVIEW // ROSS NORMANDIN AND GRIN

A CONVERSATION WITH ROSS NORMANDIN
ON THE OCCASION OF AGAIN AGAIN AT GRIN

The July paintings were made throughout the month of October. They are exact in length, width and depth with varying appendages. They consume the hue of the wall that supports them. A roll cage sits opposite from the July paintings. Cage is a series of metal bars designed to be installed in a vehicle as a safety mechanism; often times for auto racing. This is a background.

Internal and external; purging, laughing, praying; this pairing of new works is one of relationships. As much in opposition as they are in concert, the inherent material qualities lead towards states of levity and weight. Silicone knots embedded in translucent glass and a vacant welded skeleton share unspoken narratives. Free of skin and shell. July repeats. Cage is inert.

One foreground, short holidays, and the dog chases it's tail. It's built to win and built to crash.

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GRIN- How does repetition exist in your work?

ROSS NORMANDIN- Maybe a navel, asshole, or armpit is funny the first time, but a third or fourth? Then does it become funny again at the sixth or seventh?  With these new works there’s not only the repetition of a similar image, but also the physical repetition of a puncture; pressure created and the unclarity and denial of vision within each object. I am not interested in resolution through repetition.  I aim for a space of contemplation where the paintings function as one - where your laugh exists in the same space as disgust.  There’s a purity in the quality of materials, but it’s interesting to confuse, disorient, and challenge that purity through multiple variations and time.

GRIN- Your color palette is somewhere between Easter and industrial waste. Could you tell us how you arrived at this palette and how it ties into the greater concept of your work?

RN- Color is a very active part of my work. I try to keep it simple.  I’ve been using pastels and an unsaturated palette for many years now.  Hospitals, in particular, are of interest to me.  Having been a visitor to hospitals nearly my entire life has made me gravitate to the calming, yet uncomfortable colors of a waiting room or a patient’s “johnny.” Have you seen what nurse’s wear nowadays?  Those incredibly obnoxious patterned shirts - I just love them. I utilize the material’s natural color whenever I can.  Stainless steel - more often than not, I use polished steel which has certain connotations of sterility.

 A feeling that the surface is so clean it kills. Subtle shifts and careful consideration of color pairings are always happening.  Lavender / chrome; sundown / flesh tone; piss pool / sky blue -  it can activate the work very differently depending on the pairing.

GRIN- Do you consider your works to exist somewhere in the domestic dialogue?

RN- I think there are instances where my work can certainly be seen that way. Particularly when I introduce specific materials like a frame of a vehicle, swimming pool vinyl, sofa upholstery, or birthday balloons. I intend to leave a trace - my own personal history isn’t relevant.  There are places and objects that are more charged than others for me. Those that were inhabited by a body - masks and tubs to name a couple.

GRIN- Your work employs some heavy use of artificial material. Where and how do you find these materials? Is there a personal association with these materials?

RN- I only use silicone, plexiglass, and steel in this show. There’s a variety of materials in my studio at any given time.  Many of which are found and then intervened with, but most are materials I’ve chosen deliberately to work with.  The found material is much more specific and I usually seek those out. Marble trophy bases are the only natural material I work with — everything else is in the synthetic or processed realm.   There are personal associations with many, but I’m not one to be heavy handed.

GRIN- Describe the process of switching between 'sculpture' and 'painting'.

RN- There is a system in place for the two-dimensional work.  The last few shows I’ve had I exhibited a series of almost identical paintings with one sculpture. The sculptures exist alone, however, they’re integral to the exhibit.  The 2d works are individual, but I see them as functioning as one within a given space. With these works in Again Again, the processes were not so different.  Sanding the plexiglass to create a fog and grinding and polishing steel to make a near mirror finish would seem like opposites, which visually they are, but the process is very similar. There is a bit more sweat involved in one than the other, but my actions are very similar.  I am interested in how to make those connections on a formal level with two distinct forms in one space. The floor sculpture is a way to turn the knife while it’s in; to open it up.  Functionality is more at the core with the floor works - wall works involve more of the senses and tend to call attention to the frontality, but who says it doesn’t has it’s back to you? I don’t think I deliberately switch from one to the other or even think whether they’re painting or sculpture, but I think in terms of the spatial relationships with the wall, floor, and viewer. Everything I’ve made in last few years is a body, whether on a wall or on the floor.

short holiday|  silicone mask, stainless steel|  dimensions variable

INTERVIEW // Clark Mclean Graham

A CONVERSATION BETWEEN CLARK MCLEAN GRAHAM AND GRIN
ON THE OCCASION OF AGAIN AGAIN

Clark Mclean Graham works primarily as a collagist, fabricating physical and digital montages in an attempt to create modern day relics with nods to American pop culture and consumerism. His current body of work draws heavily from Freud’s idea of “repetition compulsion”. Revisiting imagery he was involuntarily subjected to as a child, Graham creates time based minimalist video collages utilizing mundane, easily forgettable moments to create a subjective, and subversive world that feels familiar and safe. On the surface these pieces serve as time based wall decor or video vignettes that are suited to the average attention span of the MTV generation.

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GRIN- How does repetition exist in your work?

CLARK MCLEAN GRAHAM- Repetitive Neurosis. In my work, repetition exists as repeated actions that in context of their normal timeline are rather brief but by looping these minuscule moments they become something more in tune with the psychological phenomenon of repetition compulsion. In my eyes the repetition also serves as a time-based brush stroke, or an instrument of conveyance.

GRIN- Your color palette is somewhere between Easter and industrial waste. Could you tell us how you arrived at this palette and how it ties into the greater concept of your work?

CLM- My color palette is heavily influenced by the color schemes of the interior shots of A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving. The soft pastels and strikingly bold oranges and yellows counterbalance the often, colorless scenes that I appropriate. Aside from the work of Charles M. Schulz my color palette is directly informed by the colors of holidays, most specifically EASTER! Growing up the grandson of a southern Baptist minister I have both horrid and fond memories of said holiday. Easter like most holidays is in itself all about repetition.

The color pink for me, aside from its ties to Easter, is important in its sense of "femininity". I know it may not be PC to assign gender to a color, but I do. I am not ashamed to admit that in the days of my angsty youth I used quite a great deal of highly pornographic material in my work. The female form is a beautiful work of art in itself and I exploited it on the 2d plane. In my current artistic practice the color pink is a stand-in for that imagery that I so blatantly over used.

GRIN- Your work employs some heavy image appropriation. Where and how do you find these images? Is there a personal association with this imagery?

CLM- My image appropriation comes in part from my own personal film library. When I watch movies I take notes. I watch and collect films and videos the way most traditional collage artists look through time printed periodicals or old dusty books. The media that was appropriated for this body of work all comes from movies that I was exposed to as a child. From an early age I was presented with movies as gifts.  Many of the clips appropriated I re-photographed from the old vhs tapes and 16mm reels that I pulled out of my parents basement.

GRIN- Describe the process of switching between 'film/video' and 'printmaking'?

CLM- My fascination with printmaking comes from the desire for the tangible. I love working with time-based material but until technology comes a little farther along it is hard to create a time based work that exists without electricity (not counting kinetic sculpture.) Until it does I will always divert back to practices that allow me to create work of a tactile nature.  Digital media has come a long way but it still has a stigma and, a sour aura about it. When people here "video artist" or "digital media" they seem to get a look in their eyes like you exposed yourself to their family pet. At the end of the day art is art, it is something rich people hang on their walls but in the eyes of some artists it is a therapeutic act.

A wise woman woman once said to me "people who make silly looking things shouldn't take themselves too seriously." I will be the first to admit that I make a lot of silly work, but I make it very seriously.